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Old 10-01-2009, 03:25 AM
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Your thoughts on the Aliens and Predators strengths/weaknesses?

Do you believe that Predators are overall stronger, faster, tougher, more intelligent, the overall better suited to take on multiple enemies on at once? Or do you believe it is a fair fight, and they are both pretty equal in terms of strength/speed/stealth/etc?

I know nobody is going to agree with me on this, but Aliens to me always seemed to be physically stronger in the AvP movies, mainly when Grid throws Chopper, or pins Celtic, he isn't really straining, or really using much or any of his strength, but when Celtic throws Grid, or Wolf lifts up the Warriors in AvPR, they both appear to be using quiet a bit of their strength, not to mention Predators, since they use Weaponry, and Technology, would undoubtedly adapt to not need to be as strong, with the support of technology on their sides, like Humans, who are obviously not as strong, physically, as say, a wild animal, that relies on it's surroundings and environment to support it, kind of like Aliens, however, Predators to me, always seemed to be smarter, more civilized, and more technologically advanced, and Aliens only seem to be stealthy when standing still, while Predators are stealthy when moving or still (due to their technology.) I hope I'm not the only one who thinks this way. >.< But to each their own.
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:53 AM
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Oh you are not. Physically the Xenos win in EVERY way in my opinion. From everything we have seen them take in the first three films. Predators are like humans but still very different. I think naturally Predators may have equal strength to a bear, thats how I always though of it.
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I'm not going to go THAT strong, but still, Preds are definitely strong, more so than a Human, I'd probably equate them to a powerful ape, which is much stronger than an average man, and I'd say Aliens can lift 10 tons or more easily, seeing the dog alien, Dragon, whomever you call him, leapt out of ten or so tons of boiling hot lead with little problem and he was at the bottom of it. >.< You know that takes immense leg, torso, and assuming he used his arms as leverage, bicept and tricept muscles. Not to mention Xenos probably weigh more than an unarmored Pred, having that thick tail and big head of theirs, not to mention those exoskeletons as thick as starship hulls. (exaggeration)

I think one main drawback of the Alien might be it's weight, assuming the exoskeletal feature would crush most man-sized organisms (probably why we don't see crabs the size of dogs) the Alien would probably have an endo skeleton countering the immense pressure of the exoskeleton, which, to add good protection, would need to be atleast 5 of so pounds, and then endo skeleton would weigh around 200, most likely, plus the muscular and organ systems, and the dorsal tubes/pipes which probably weigh around 5 pounds each, a 25 pound tail, mostly bone and muscles, and a large head, containing a rather large brain, other organs, skull, and exo skeleton, which would add the head alone up to being roughly 30-40 pounds, so we're looking at a creature that weighs around 350-450 pounds atleast, which due to it's large head, probably would make it rather clumsy, watch closely how they wall walk in Aliens, particularly when Ripley is firing at them as they're walking along the wall during her confrontation with the Queen in her lair, and how it whirls around and hits Parker with it's tail, during the next to last scene of Alien. Kinda a clumsy brute, but powerful, no doubt.

And for those of you who are going to counter with the whole 'what about when Vasquez pins the Alien Warrior in the shafts during Aliens?" Well, as I said before, their head is one of the heaviest parts of their body, making them have quiet a clumsiness to them, couple that with a tight confined space, it isn't superior strength, it's all about physics, if you were a 300 pound creature, roughly 7'09 in height, and you were in a confined space fighting something much more agile than you, i'd say they'd pin you pretty quickly, no matter how strong you are.

Predators' physique (muscle, bone structure, etc) isn't that different from a human, Alien's muscles are more spread out over their body, hinting towards something we will not readily understand, Predators on the other hand, we can estimate they're similar to Humans, thus they wouldn't be as much stronger than us than something foreign would, it's so Alien, it would be much harder, while not impossible, I'd say Predators aren't as strong as a BEAR, but maybe like say a Gorilla, or a large Ape, probably stronger, seeing as Wolf, at the apex of his physical ability, was able to lift two 300 pound Xenomorphs in each arm, dunno if a Gorilla could do that, maybe, but they're both strong, Predators have superior technology, intelligence, Aliens have the better physical stats.
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Old 10-02-2009, 01:27 AM
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Thats sort of what I meant. Xenos have the best physical stats as where Predators are definitely strong but also have the creativity that allows them to build and use technology as where Xenos are all instinct but I do think the Xenos are VERY smart but just do not have the creativity needed to build and use technology like we do. But they can learn to use some technology shown in pretty much all the films.
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:43 AM
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I'm sure they're intelligent, just not as intelligent as Predators, however, they can learn much more quickly, seeing as how the female in Aliens learned to operate the lift with just one look at it. O.o
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Aliens are stronger, but Predators have technology on their side. They both use stealth as a weapon, and both of them can counter it(as seen in AVP). Like Chris said, the Predators have a lot of creativity. This gives them a big advantage over Aliens in terms of technology and thinking outside of the box. Aliens are intelligent, but not creative. However they do learn quickly, especially in Alien:Resurection.

All in all its an even fight if its one on one. However, the Aliens have numbers too which is a big thing to factor into the equation. For every Xeno you take down, a thousand more will take its place.
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