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Old 08-25-2009, 05:06 PM  
Aliens CM Release DEPENDS on AVP's Success.
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Found this at G4TV.com:

Aliens: Colonial Marines will be released eventually, Sega president and COO Mike Hayes told [Interviewer] in a phone interview last week. It's a question of when, whose answer hinges on another game entirely.

Sega's grand plans for rebooting the Aliens franchise have changed. The Aliens RPG from Obsidian Entertainment was cancelled, while Gearbox Software's Aliens: Colonial Marines was placed on the backburner and Rebellion's Aliens vs. Predator moved to the forefront. Gearbox continues to work on the squad-based shooter while its future remains in limbo.
Hayes said Sega still hasn't nailed down a release date for Aliens: Colonial Marines because there are several factors at play.

"I think the detail of that [release date] is probably still too early," said Hayes. "What I would say is it's unlikely that we'd launch anything within six months [after Aliens vs. Predator], but probably nine months, eight to 12 months possibly. Though we literally are looking at that at the moment and a lot of is going to depend, as well, on how successful AvP is at the box [retail]."

There's a problem for Aliens: Colonial Marines in this scenario. Sega has a great amount of confidence in Aliens vs. Predator. Hayes said Sega's received more feedback from fans about the release of that game than anything else in its lineup. If Aliens vs. Predator is wildly successful, Sega can move ahead with Aliens: Colonial Marines sooner, possibly even before the end of 2010. If gamers reject Rebellion's shooter, though, Sega could decide to hold off for a while.

"It's what level of 'well' does it do," said Hayes, speaking of Aliens vs. Predator's potential sales, "do we then determine when we want to bring the next one out and then, of course, determine what the third one in the series is likely to be."
Despite the cancellation of the Aliens RPG, Sega is still committed to producing a third Aliens game.

"Oh, absolutely," said Hayes.
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Even if it sucks dick, AvP will be a success due to fanboyism. Therefore, there are no doubts around ACM.
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It looks like you are using the word fanboy in some despective way. We too are "Aliens" fanboys who will buy ACM, and the avp3 fanboys will do the same with their respective game.

I for one will be getting both
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I'm not being disrespectful, merely stating the obvious truth. It doesn't matter how hard AVP sucks or does not, it will be successful.
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That is why AvP is listed as CashCow in the dictionary. Another truth is no matter what the quality AvP is a CashCow.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:20 AM
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I think the reason so many ACM fans don't like AVP as much is because there are Predators in it. Predators. As in a far greater threat to the Alien than the human ever was.

Not just within the game but I mean freaking everything, like Predator fanboys, the fact that they're... there.

Or it could be something totally different.
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I'm not being disrespectful, merely stating the obvious truth. It doesn't matter how hard AVP sucks or does not, it will be successful.
I know I know, but you made It sound a bit despective. Remember that we are all fanboys, some are Alien fans, others are avp fans, but we all fanboys in the end.

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That is why AvP is listed as CashCow in the dictionary. Another truth is no matter what the quality AvP is a CashCow.
hey Chris, I bet you will be the first one playing avp3 by the time it is released, or didn,t you play avp and avp2 too?, good cashcow games even when they featured predators eh?

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and the alien fanboys, are they not there too?, I for one am one of them, just like you and all those of you who lurk in this and other forums.

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I think the reason so many ACM fans don't like AVP as much is because there are Predators in it. Predators
actually, those are my thoughts in this regard. I understand that some people do not like the predator, but trust me, when "Predator" was released It was a very succesful fim and we all loved the new creature, at least here in my country, and many of us quickly started to think about the mix between both the pred and the alien, our dream by then.

Perhaps some of you might find these words coming from an A L I E N (not aliens) fanboy kinda weird, but I always knew these two creatures perfectly fit in some sort of paralell story, because even when the alien (the first one of course, never the others) plained as a much more interesting creature by those times, when the predator appeared one year later after the release of "Aliens" (film that dissapointed a lot of us hardcore A L I E N fans), then A LOT of us knew that a mix between both was somehow inevitable. The problem began when the dark horse comics were born (not when predator2 was released featuring the trophy room scene), and the consequent mess regarding the origins of the aliens related to the very predator specie instead of the space jockeys, true daddies of the aliens, and the overall ridiculousness in regards to the stuff these comics were featuring (in avp, the aliens are a dangerous species native to the predator planet; the predators, wanting to create the ultimate prey for their hunting needs take these ALREADY dangerous species and genetically modify then molting these species into the ultimate assassins; the aliens were like the dogs in our planet the earth before they were genetically modified, but now translate It into the predator homeworld..., that,s the origins of the aliens in AVP; nevertheless, this is not one of the ridiculous things I was mentioning about the avp comics, just the opposite, but the rest of the stuff featured by those comics just plains silly, and we all know It)

If the avp world would have been handled by serious people, which means making this new (by those times) world something serious, dark and interesting, then I,m sure most of us would,ve loved avp even more than A L I E N or Aliens, or Predator, but we eventually were given the two films we all very well know, the first one being the ridiculousness itself and maximum shame to the avp fans, and the second some sort of avp try, better, but not good in the end.

That,s my opinion in this regard, you may not like the predator (or the film predator/2), but if It all would have been done right using the proper Director and plot, then we would have been given a very good and serious film, and the situation of shame we are currently living thanks to those two jewels would not have been possible, because the embarrasment I as an old old old AVP and A L I E N fan feel can not be explained with words. The avp stuff we are currently witnessing on the big screen has nothing to do with what I once dreamed when being a youngster.

That,s what sadness me the most about the people who hate avp, they just hate It because of the avp films and the comics, but AVP was never like all those things saw in the films and in the comics..., avp is something very different and far superior to the things we have been given till date, and by the time It,s properly handled by someone competent, then you will understand what I,m trying to say to you all.

In short people, do not hate AVP just because of the films and the comics..., avp is nothing that, but for now let us enjoy AVP3 as we did with Its prequels in the past, don,t you think boys?
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Are you kidding me, I like Predators a lot just not as much as ALIEN(S), and I had a blast playing AvP1 and AvP2 even if they got repetitive. But the fact ever since the success of those two AvP games every other AvP material = CashCow.
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no no I,m not kidding you, I,m just wondering why the avp game is a cashcow and ACM is not, because in my book there exist A LOT of aliens fans too eagerly awating a pure aliens game, I for one am one of them

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That's what I'm saying. I've seen many Alien fanboys bitching about Predator fanboys (among other shit) when they're fanboys themselves. And that's why people are bitching more about AVP than ACM. It's not just the Alien fans complaining about the Predators, but it's the Predator fans complaining about the Aliens. And the human fans are just fucking out there. I mean, mention them once and everyone's fucked.

And so back onto the subject or popularity. Or maybe I should say the amount of bitching. There are less people complaining about the elements in ACM because it's purely Aliens.

Picking the Predator over the Alien is like picking the Simpsons over Futurama. Or Halo over Call of Duty. They're about equal, it just boils down to your own personal preference. None are better than the other... yet it's an active debate.

The only reason I slightly prefer the Alien is because I like the fact that they're just plain disgusting. And you all know me!...

...Anyway, I just forgot what I was talking about.

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no no I,m not kidding you, I,m just wondering why the avp game is a cashcow and ACM is not, because in my book there exist A LOT of aliens fans too eagerly awating a pure aliens game, I for one am one of them
Well I personally feel that AvP is more of a cashcow than A:CM because I am seen more dedication from Gearbox then from Rebellion. Rebellion does not have forums as where Gearbox does, I feel that the Gearbox members working on A:CM care about the series from the times they have spoken as where Rebellion seems to think the fact that they made AvP1 is good enough to justify them caring about the franchise. And yes I know AvP1 was a great way in many ways but that WAS 10 years ago before the AvP movies and all the hatred those two films brought with. You see it is my personal opinion to always see AvP3 as a cashcow because no matter how good or bad it is it will make money because there is a LOT of money within AvP. Now I WANT Rebellion to make a good game and I want Gearbox to make a good game. Not wanting them to make good games is just retarded. But I still have had this feeling AvP3 is being used as a Cash Cow ever since Sega put it in front of A:CM and then CANNED A:C. And whether it truly was farther ahead of A:CM or not I do not know but I am pretty sure Sega still would have done it because its AvP.
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